Platinum Member Caroline12 Posted January 29, 2023 Platinum Member Share Posted January 29, 2023 Great trip today in the plains, nicely muddy, lots of thick ice and crunchy water crossings, great to see old friends and new friends. Thanks to @Chrisbyand@MGomesfor leading. A little bit of damage by ice. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Member UKTJ Posted January 29, 2023 Platinum Member Share Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) Yes, interesting in our group too. Trevor's XJ survived a bit too much water at one point. Then both Cameron's and my TJ suffered from over heating issues. We think it was down to the thick chalk slurry completely clogging the radiators. I survived after several cooling stops and a long journey home avoiding the M3 and as many major roads as I could, punctuated my more roadside cooling breaks. Cameron was not so lucky, his radiator literally blew its top, with the top section being blown apart and all coolant dumped onto the road. He is still to get home after a frustrating wait for recovery, but I'll let him tell you more about that. Sadly I never think to take my camera out, but hopefully others frkm our group will have some pictures to share. A massive thanks to Chris and Manny for leading, and everyone in the JOC team who helped organise the event. Edited January 29, 2023 by UKTJ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Member MGomes Posted January 29, 2023 Platinum Member Share Posted January 29, 2023 1 minute ago, UKTJ said: Yes, interesting in our group too. Trevor's XJ survived a bit too much water at one point. Then both Cameron's and my TJ suffered from over heating issues. We think it was down to the thick chalk slurry completely clogging the radiators. I survived after to cooling stops and a long journey home avoiding the M3 and as many major roads as I could. Cameron was not so lucky, his radiator literally blew its top, with the top section being blown apart and all coolant dumped onto the road. He is still to get home after a frustrating wait for recovery, but I'll let him tell you more about that. Sadly I never think to take my camera out, but hopefully others frkm our group will have some pictures to share. A massive thanks to Chris and Manny for leading, and everyone in the JOC team who helped organise the event. The plain has surely taken a few victims today! Glad you are home safe 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Member UKTJ Posted January 29, 2023 Platinum Member Share Posted January 29, 2023 I am such a rude, fool. What I should have said in my post above is a huge thankyou to the other's in my group who so patiently waited for me while I cooled down, helped me check for issues and gave me their water to replace lost coolant. I would noy have got home without all of you. So, many many thanks and apologies that this was not in my first post. Not sure I know everyone's forum name, but to those wjo I do, thankyou to @Chrisby, @Jeepinwithgeorgie, @Bela and @Jeepster1941 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Member MGomes Posted January 29, 2023 Platinum Member Share Posted January 29, 2023 Great day… some damage to a fair few of us… but we still finished with a smile! Great to see some “regular faces” and even better to meet new ones! In my short life as a Jeeper I have surely learned how amazing and accommodating all Jeepers are! Time IMG_4497.MOV IMG_4497.MOV FullSizeRender.MOV IMG_4556.MOV 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Member Caroline12 Posted January 29, 2023 Platinum Member Share Posted January 29, 2023 26 minutes ago, UKTJ said: Yes, interesting in our group too. Trevor's XJ survived a bit too much water at one point. Then both Cameron's and my TJ suffered from over heating issues. We think it was down to the thick chalk slurry completely clogging the radiators. I survived after several cooling stops and a long journey home avoiding the M3 and as many major roads as I could, punctuated my more roadside cooling breaks. Cameron was not so lucky, his radiator literally blew its top, with the top section being blown apart and all coolant dumped onto the road. He is still to get home after a frustrating wait for recovery, but I'll let him tell you more about that. Sadly I never think to take my camera out, but hopefully others frkm our group will have some pictures to share. A massive thanks to Chris and Manny for leading, and everyone in the JOC team who helped organise the event. The famous Salisbury plain mud was in full affect in radiators and cooling issues today. The mud caused sensor issues for me, but thanks to Gerry’s engine reader, we cleared them and all good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Member Caroline12 Posted January 29, 2023 Platinum Member Share Posted January 29, 2023 @MGomes through the ice IMG_3634.MOV 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Member UKTJ Posted January 29, 2023 Platinum Member Share Posted January 29, 2023 22 minutes ago, Caroline12 said: @MGomes through the ice IMG_3634.MOV At about 7 seconds in it looks like you can see the front bumper flexing as it breaks the ice. Is that how the damage was eventually caused? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Member Cameron Posted January 29, 2023 Platinum Member Share Posted January 29, 2023 1 hour ago, UKTJ said: I am such a rude, fool. What I should have said in my post above is a huge thankyou to the other's in my group who so patiently waited for me while I cooled down, helped me check for issues and gave me their water to replace lost coolant. I would noy have got home without all of you. So, many many thanks and apologies that this was not in my first post. Not sure I know everyone's forum name, but to those wjo I do, thankyou to @Chrisby, @Jeepinwithgeorgie, @Bela and @Jeepster1941 Likewise, a big thank you for your support today. We are finally on our way back home 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Member Raakhee Posted January 29, 2023 Platinum Member Share Posted January 29, 2023 Great kick off to the year. Thanks to Lou, Chris, Manny and the JOC team for arranging and leading this trip. Here is a video of how we all started. PS. There was no visible damage to my Jeep, despite the huge chunks of ice Got me a souvenir 2023-01-29-220812683.mp4 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Platinum Member MGomes Posted January 30, 2023 Platinum Member Share Posted January 30, 2023 13 hours ago, Caroline12 said: @MGomes through the ice IMG_3634.MOV The bumper was already shaking there... the lake after killed it... LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Member MGomes Posted January 30, 2023 Platinum Member Share Posted January 30, 2023 13 hours ago, UKTJ said: At about 7 seconds in it looks like you can see the front bumper flexing as it breaks the ice. Is that how the damage was eventually caused? Not that one - small puddle... there was a small lake after (that was the bumper killer...) go figure the bumper is attached by 8 very thin small plastic clips... I guess sturdier hardware is required in the front... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Member UKTJ Posted January 30, 2023 Platinum Member Share Posted January 30, 2023 5 hours ago, MGomes said: Not that one - small puddle... there was a small lake after (that was the bumper killer...) go figure the bumper is attached by 8 very thin small plastic clips... I guess sturdier hardware is required in the front... Is it just the hardware that has broken on yours? If so that sounds like an easier (and cheaper) fix than I feared when I heard "Manny has ripped his bumper off"! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Member MGomes Posted January 30, 2023 Platinum Member Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, UKTJ said: Is it just the hardware that has broken on yours? If so that sounds like an easier (and cheaper) fix than I feared when I heard "Manny has ripped his bumper off"! The JL stock bumper (front plastic bit) is attached to the car by a few (really small) plastic bits that clip on to the "metal bit" of the car - when I went if "first" to break the ice on a little lake (pic attached) the pressure form the ice literally broke all the plastic bits on the bumper that would clip to the car frame - its not a huge thing - I just need a new bumper LOL - the hardware is actually really WEAK when you think what the Rubicon is made for... I have already spoken to Alex @Buzz (as helpful as everyone says he is) - and identified the hardware that will replace the bumper (need the bosses approval and then find time to drive there) - so not a big thing - just an expense I was not counting on right now (comes with the hobby) Currently I have it attached (thank you @Caroline12) so it does not fly away 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Member UKTJ Posted January 30, 2023 Platinum Member Share Posted January 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, MGomes said: The JL stock bumper (front plastic bit) is attached to the car by a few (really small) plastic bits that clip on to the "metal bit" of the car - when I went if "first" to break the ice on a little lake (pic attached) the pressure form the ice literally broke all the plastic bits on the bumper that would clip to the car frame - its not a huge thing - I just need a new bumper LOL - the hardware is actually really WEAK when you think what the Rubicon is made for... I have already spoken to Alex @Buzz (as helpful as everyone says he is) - and identified the hardware that will replace the bumper (need the bosses approval and then find time to drive there) - so not a big thing - just an expense I was not counting on right now (comes with the hobby) Currently I have it attached (thank you @Caroline12) so it does not fly away Sorry to hear that it does mean a new bumper, with the expense that entails. But I guess it is just a case of an upgrade you are making a bit sooner than planned, well maybe that is the 'sales case' to managament 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Member Raakhee Posted January 30, 2023 Platinum Member Share Posted January 30, 2023 49 minutes ago, UKTJ said: Sorry to hear that it does mean a new bumper, with the expense that entails. But I guess it is just a case of an upgrade you are making a bit sooner than planned, well maybe that is the 'sales case' to managament My Bumper was fine. In fact my Jeep returned with no injuries. However seeing how flimsy the plastic bumper is attached makes me wanna upgrade sooner than later as well 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Member MGomes Posted January 30, 2023 Platinum Member Share Posted January 30, 2023 54 minutes ago, UKTJ said: Sorry to hear that it does mean a new bumper, with the expense that entails. But I guess it is just a case of an upgrade you are making a bit sooner than planned, well maybe that is the 'sales case' to managament "gotta be done" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Member Caroline12 Posted January 30, 2023 Platinum Member Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 hour ago, MGomes said: - the hardware is actually really WEAK when you think what the Rubicon is made for... Yes, I mean that plastic bumper is no match for 40 metres of 3” thick ice I think it stood up to it quite well really 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Member Cameron Posted January 31, 2023 Platinum Member Share Posted January 31, 2023 Took my radiator out today. The black part is where the hose hit it when trying to clean the enging bay. The whole thing was orignally caked with the clay. It may be a good idea to check your radiators to ensure you don't have an exploding radiator too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Member Caroline12 Posted January 31, 2023 Platinum Member Share Posted January 31, 2023 Is that the backside of the radiator, fan side ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Member Cameron Posted January 31, 2023 Platinum Member Share Posted January 31, 2023 It is but the front side was bad too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Member Caroline12 Posted January 31, 2023 Platinum Member Share Posted January 31, 2023 So blocked solid from both sides and then baked hard by hot jacket water, that’s not good how’s the radiator fan ? Ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Member Cameron Posted January 31, 2023 Platinum Member Share Posted January 31, 2023 Fan appears to be okay but I will be taking it off and making sure it is not seized before I put the new radiator in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Member V Posted January 31, 2023 Platinum Member Share Posted January 31, 2023 48 minutes ago, Cameron said: Fan appears to be okay but I will be taking it off and making sure it is not seized before I put the new radiator in. A fan clutch can fail in both modes, seized solid (over cooling) or permanently slipping (under cooling). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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