Surfer Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 I have been a member of this forum since its inception. I have a couple of items that would be of interest to Jeep owners however to be able to advertise on here would cost me about £25 to upgrade my membership to advertise the items. However I am not prepared to do that as see no benefit to me so unfortunately some on the forum will not benefit from those items. A great shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Member doodle Posted September 21, 2022 VIP Member Share Posted September 21, 2022 How about list them on market place or the bay and link.here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfer Posted September 21, 2022 Author Share Posted September 21, 2022 14 minutes ago, doodle said: How about list them on market place or the bay and link.here? Not sure if you are allowed to do that however the point I was trying to make is that it seems unfair that in order to advertise or probably see adverts you need to upgrade the membership. When I originally joined, membership fees were not part of the forum, but are now. No objection, but when would I ever need to use all of the upgraded membership? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUE STAR Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Although I also don't pay membership fees, there must be quite a lot of ongoing outlay & volunteered time in running such a site as this. All down to personal choice on what's it worth to yourself I guess. When I pay over £600 road tax to the Govt (same as an HGV) highway robbery for what ? Paying a membership fee pales into insignificance. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeepjimboy Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Depends on ebay charges fees blah blah. I had a couple of items to go last year and felt it was easier and no other fees, to upgrade for a year. Both items went to happy bunnies with no stress or bidding nonsense. Just saying. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Member JimC Posted September 21, 2022 VIP Member Share Posted September 21, 2022 Sorry to that you feel this way and I will be totally blunt in my reply. The JOC Team are all volunteers, non of us take anything out of the club and we give up our spare time for the good of the club free of charge and we do not have any form of expense reimbursement so if someone from the JOC team attend an event, say this years Summer Camp in Wales, all the accommodation and expenses is paid by the JOC team member and does not come out of JOC. So you know some of the outlays required to run the club we have to pay (this does not include all of the clubs liabilities) - Public liability insurance which is in the many thousands so that we can run events We cover the risk of events that JOC runs that do not cover the outlay for renting a site so we have to cover this risk Monthly payments for our software forum Monthly payment to Amazon Web services to store all of your great videos and photos Monthly payment to Microsoft for Office365 so that we have the applications and communications to keep the club running JOC merchandise has be paid for up front The only income we have is through membership fees, any income that we make from events and a very small profit on JOC merchandise sales. Please do contact me if you have a problem with your free membership to JOC I can be contacted via Jim.coote@jeepowners.club 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Member JimC Posted September 21, 2022 VIP Member Share Posted September 21, 2022 Just to add that the benefit of being a Gold or VIP JOC member is not just limited to selling items. A Gold or VIP member receives discounts on selected events, advanced bookings and offers such as the Jeep Affinity scheme where you can save thousands on a new Jeep And more. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUE STAR Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Well Jim I only guessed what was involved, nice to have more education as always. Nearly makes me feel guilty for getting it for free Much appreciated. Got my £600+ in Winston Churchills already saved up, to donate to the Govt this November to help pay towards the £83 billion interest payment for July for all the wasted Trillions borrowed since the banking bailouts & covid scaremongering. 'Led by Donkeys' 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 If a post on this forum has saved a member from buying an hour of commercial expertise to diagnose a Jeep problem, that one hour would cost more than the Gold membership fee. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Member JimC Posted September 21, 2022 VIP Member Share Posted September 21, 2022 I will also like to add the very close relationship that with have as a club with Jeep themselves. Not just Jeep UK but also Jeep in the US and all this is all through one of the JOC team. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Member Raakhee Posted September 22, 2022 VIP Member Share Posted September 22, 2022 I've certainly benefitted from the VIP membership. Brand new Jeep, fast tracked delivery, exactly what I wanted. £8,500 off the base price. With just 2 events at the discount price, I got my membership fee back. Wonderful forum with so many knowledgeable people. As you can see from Simon's photos, Summer Camp was amazing and all that planning and co-ordination would have cost thousands if done by contracted professionals but actually was done by volunteers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfer Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share Posted September 22, 2022 All I wanted to do was offer some items for sale that would benefit members of this forum, but at a cost of £25 it is not worth it to me to pay that amount to sell the goods. Not sure why you need to be a member to be able to advertise goods however that is the choice of the management. When this forum was founded it ran for many years without a paid up membership base. In my younger days I was capable of repairing my own cars unless a major repair, however now at 73 and disabled it is nearly impossible for me to even do minor stuff on my Jeep and I can no longer participate in events anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Volant165 Posted September 22, 2022 Management Share Posted September 22, 2022 4 hours ago, Surfer said: All I wanted to do was offer some items for sale that would benefit members of this forum, but at a cost of £25 it is not worth it to me to pay that amount to sell the goods. Not sure why you need to be a member to be able to advertise goods however that is the choice of the management. When this forum was founded it ran for many years without a paid up membership base. In my younger days I was capable of repairing my own cars unless a major repair, however now at 73 and disabled it is nearly impossible for me to even do minor stuff on my Jeep and I can no longer participate in events anyway. Hi Surfer, Perhaps I can help you. The club ran for many years with Stewart and myself bankrolling the club. Yes, thousands of pounds each out of our pockets for a shared passion. We hit the point where the club would become no longer sustainable. Obtaining club insurance started to become very difficult and more expensive. Our web platforms, web hosting and all operating costs were increasing to the point of the club becoming non existent. The club was also being taken advantage of. Businesses and individuals were merely after our database of members to "solicit and run." We chose to put and end to that and those. We were faced with a fee for everyone. We then discussed at great length the best way to have an inclusive and sustainable club for everyone. So, we took the decision to have a Silver level of membership level (free) which as V has pointed out can save members a little, or a hell of a lot. And I hope that when you renew your insurance every year you mention your membership in the Jeep Owners Club as our partner providers can offer you a club discount of up to 15% We then added the the Gold level which you refer to. £25 for 12 months means that you can post items for sale be it a Jeep or a set of lug nuts. Twelve months. And you have a captive Jeep audience. If you don't have £25 worth of merchandise to sell and do not need the other perks that come with I fully understand. And of course our VIP level comes with even more enhanced benefits. At the management level we donate our time and efforts to run the club behind the scenes and provide the boots on the ground at the events. I personally appreciate your situation. I too can no longer physically service or tinker with my Jeeps myself and are glad that you can still be a part of the club. If there is anything that I can help you with don't hesitate to email me privately at jim.olexa@jeepowners.club 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfer Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share Posted September 22, 2022 Jim, I understand all the above relating to expenses and appreciate your input and the input of others. I would be quite happy to pay a fiver to advertise, but that is not an option. As said for me even the Gold membership and attending events is not really an option. A few years ago I did try the insurance partners, but found that they were expensive even if you factored in the 15% discount. That may have changed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Surfer said: I would be quite happy to pay a fiver to advertise Chargeable classified ads have been successful in other clubs. Free classifieds for Gold and above, £1 for 100 word text ad for Silvers, £1 extra for up to 5 photos. Ads run for a month before automatically being removed. However, the cost of developing a bespoke ad system or integrating a package is another thing. Either could easily exceed the classified ad revenue. The time and effort to administer a manual system are even less attractive. I think it would be unlikely to see something like this unless someone is feeling generous enough to donate a ready to run ad system. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Member UKTJ Posted September 22, 2022 VIP Member Share Posted September 22, 2022 I think Silver membership has another benefit, as it provides an opportunity to 'give it a try'. That is exactly what I did, I signed up to Silver, then after a while when I had seen the benefits of the club I decided to upgrade to a paying tier. When I say benefits, I do not mean the incremental benefits of the higher tiers, I mean the benefits of the club per se, available at all tier levels - such as the organised events and the excellent advice from other members. I concluded that the JOC was something I would get a lot out of and, bluntly, wanted to do what I could to ensure it would still be there in the future. Everyone's circumstances differ, but while I am fortunate enough to be able to pay for a higher tier of the JOC, that is what I shall do. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeepjimboy Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 On 21/09/2022 at 19:44, jeepjimboy said: Depends on ebay charges fees blah blah. I had a couple of items to go last year and felt it was easier and no other fees, to upgrade for a year. Both items went to happy bunnies with no stress or bidding nonsense. Just saying. Oh, to add, I was an early member of this forum and had lots of help and fun during my 3 JK's ownership. All respect to JOC's Jim O, Stewart and the management team. I'm still a member, owning a 4x4 albeit a Hybrid Forester. Still having fun btw, but must try and join a JOC get together soonish. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerryg Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 If you can afford to buy, tax, insure, fuel & maintain a Jeep, £25 is peanuts. IMHO. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Member doodle Posted September 23, 2022 VIP Member Share Posted September 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, jerryg said: If you can afford to buy, tax, insure, fuel & maintain a Jeep, £25 is peanuts. IMHO. Who said i can afford it... I rent myself out on weeknights! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfer Posted September 23, 2022 Author Share Posted September 23, 2022 1 hour ago, jerryg said: If you can afford to buy, tax, insure, fuel & maintain a Jeep, £25 is peanuts. IMHO. True but for me it is not value for money! However for someone younger, a decent job and more active, it is a bargain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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