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Hey guys, I'm Nils and am a Jeep newbie in London (are there many of those?). I only got my licence 2 1/2 years ago (at the ripe age of 35!) and bought my first car a year later, which happened to be a Jeep Renegade (Limited 1.4 Multiair 4WD), which I've now had for 18 months. I never thought I could love a car so much, but I do love the little thing, what a perfect first car. Now, I realise by now that the Jeep purists will scoff at the Renegade, but I will say that it's a great all-rounder and it works perfectly as a marketing strategy to get more people into the Jeep world. I'm now at a stage where I absolutely want a Wrangler after doing a bunch of research and crawling YouTube information videos. Seems to me that the new Wrangler JL would be a perfect transition as it has most of the safety and creature comforts that the Renegade has but with proper off-roading capability. I'm also hoping the 2-door JL won't be too bulky to drive around London, which is definitely one benefit of the Renegade.

Do you guys have any comments on this? Also, would you recommend the diesel or the forthcoming petrol JL?

Last question - while I see out my PCP period on the Renegade and save my pennies for the Wrangler, where would you recommend I can get some beginner off-roading practice in the Renegade not too far from London?

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30 minutes ago, nilsonwhels said:

Hey guys, I'm Nils and am a Jeep newbie in London (are there many of those?). I only got my licence 2 1/2 years ago (at the ripe age of 35!) and bought my first car a year later, which happened to be a Jeep Renegade (Limited 1.4 Multiair 4WD), which I've now had for 18 months. I never thought I could love a car so much, but I do love the little thing, what a perfect first car. Now, I realise by now that the Jeep purists will scoff at the Renegade, but I will say that it's a great all-rounder and it works perfectly as a marketing strategy to get more people into the Jeep world. I'm now at a stage where I absolutely want a Wrangler after doing a bunch of research and crawling YouTube information videos. Seems to me that the new Wrangler JL would be a perfect transition as it has most of the safety and creature comforts that the Renegade has but with proper off-roading capability. I'm also hoping the 2-door JL won't be too bulky to drive around London, which is definitely one benefit of the Renegade.

Do you guys have any comments on this? Also, would you recommend the diesel or the forthcoming petrol JL?

Last question - while I see out my PCP period on the Renegade and save my pennies for the Wrangler, where would you recommend I can get some beginner off-roading practice in the Renegade not too far from London?

 

Welcome to the club Nils. Don’t knock the Renegade, great little Jeep, I like them! ? If you want some off roading practice you should sign up for the club day out at Slindon Safari in February, it’s not too far away from you and you’ll have a blast!

 

Only thing I’d say about the JL (so far) is that it appears to be massively overpriced, value for money wise on the Wrangler I think you’d be better off with something like a 2016 JK. However I suppose it depends how you are financing it, might not be much difference if you are on a pay monthly PCP. Oh, and I’d go for the petrol........no particular reasoned argument, I just prefer petrols. 

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Welcome to the club!

 

Yes a very natural progression is to the Wrangler from the Renegade.  My suggestion for you would be 2 door JL petrol. There are club discounts flying around at the moment dropping the price a bit. The ease of modifying the JL and seeing some of the aftermarket toys at the SEMA show last week mean JL ownership should rock. 

 

 

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57 minutes ago, Volant165 said:

Welcome to the club!

 

Yes a very natural progression is to the Wrangler from the Renegade.  My suggestion for you would be 2 door JL petrol. There are club discounts flying around at the moment dropping the price a bit. The ease of modifying the JL and seeing some of the aftermarket toys at the SEMA show last week mean JL ownership should rock. 

 

 

Jim,

 

Have the discounts on the petrol JLs been confirmed?

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Thanks guys, much appreciated. I've got another 18 months PCP on my Renegade so over that time I can watch and see how things develop with the JL, including pricing, discounts and PCP deals. Was gravitating towards the petrol anyway so thanks for the feedback.

 

 

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Hi Nils and welcome.

I live just north of London, so there are some of us about. I'm pretty new and need some off road coaching, i'm on the list to go with the group on the Slindon safari in Feb.

Happy Jeeping

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Welcome Nils,

When looking to change your Jeep give Horsham Car Centre a call. Ask for Dean and mention our Club.They are a brilliant Jeep dealer Really worth giving them a call to discuss your requirements and travelling down to see them. Numerous club members, including me, use them. 

To experience Jeeps Off-road? Easy.........come and join us all at Slindon in February. Horsham Car Centre will be in attendance too

Slindon is suitable for any Jeep........any owner...........any ability. 

See you soon?

Jules

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geoff meadows

hi there big hank not near london  so cant help you on that one based in southport my self  ther will be  plenty of nice  helpfull jeepers at slindon to help you out and give you some pointer on your offroad exploits from there its just a case   of practise to build your ability and confidence   my see you at slindon 

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1 hour ago, BigHank said:

Hi Nils and welcome.

I live just north of London, so there are some of us about. I'm pretty new and need some off road coaching, i'm on the list to go with the group on the Slindon safari in Feb.

Happy Jeeping

Hi BigHank and thanks. Will give Slindon a go next year, looks like I can get some coaching there.

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32 minutes ago, Jules said:

Welcome Nils,

When looking to change your Jeep give Horsham Car Centre a call. Ask for Dean and mention our Club.They are a brilliant Jeep dealer Really worth giving them a call to discuss your requirements and travelling down to see them. Numerous club members, including me, use them. 

To experience Jeeps Off-road? Easy.........come and join us all at Slindon in February. Horsham Car Centre will be in attendance too

Slindon is suitable for any Jeep........any owner...........any ability. 

See you soon?

Jules

Hi Jules and thanks for the welcome.

Thanks for the tip on the dealership, once I get to the point where I can buy the Wrangler I'll check them out. For my Renegade I went to my closest dealer, Desira Southgate on Colney Hatch Lane, and they haven't been great to be honest - no real Jeep enthusiasm there.

Thanks also for the nudge re Slindon, I meant to ask Tim whether I can get away with being an off-road novice as well as a Renegade with stock tyres. If you say that's fine I'll be sure to give it a try.

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5 hours ago, fen01 said:

Jim,

 

Have the discounts on the petrol JLs been confirmed?

Hi Fenton,

 

We're meeting with JEEP next week and can check on that. When were you looking at purchasing/ordering? 

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Hi Nils and welcome.

 

A short wheelbase JL will be fine for London. But as others have pointed out it will be expensive to buy.

 

Diesels tend to work well with 4x4s, but bear in mind people are turning away from them, so selling them afterwards could result in a loss.

 

Be aware that once you have a Wrangler you will want to modify it - a lot - and that may not be compatible with leasing.

 

The other thing is, the Renegade is great to drive on the road. It drives like a luxury car - great ride, great handling, great driving position, really easy to drive...

 

Although a JL will be an evolutionary improvement in refinement compared to earlier generations of solid-axle, ladder-chassis Wranglers, those offroad characteristics will still mean it is a world away from the road-biased Renegade with its fully independent suspension and monocoque construction. I have a Wrangler and a Renegade and they are worlds apart.

 

So test drive a JL carefully in London traffic - consider whether you will want this as your only vehicle when in stop / start London traffic or manoeuvring into tight spaces that need a lot of steering lock. Consider whether the novelty will wear off quickly during your everyday commute before you commit to spending a lot of money.

 

If you have sufficient parking I recommend buying another 4x4 now just to play with. An old Cherokee will do. You can cheaply modify it to be good offroad. You can learn skills on a less capable vehicle (always the best way), a vehicle that you don't mind damaging, and learn for yourself what you want from a 4x4. When your PCP expires with the experience gained you will know 100% what you want. It might be a nice clean JL, or you may have got sick of 4x4 and want a Porsche or you may want to keep a regular car as run-around and start building a very offroad biased Jeep.

 

Good luck with your decisions, and take your time.

 

Steve.

 

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15 minutes ago, sabconsulting said:

Hi Nils and welcome.

 

A short wheelbase JL will be fine for London. But as others have pointed out it will be expensive to buy.

 

Diesels tend to work well with 4x4s, but bear in mind people are turning away from them, so selling them afterwards could result in a loss.

 

Be aware that once you have a Wrangler you will want to modify it - a lot - and that may not be compatible with leasing.

 

The other thing is, the Renegade is great to drive on the road. It drives like a luxury car - great ride, great handling, great driving position, really easy to drive...

 

Although a JL will be an evolutionary improvement in refinement compared to earlier generations of solid-axle, ladder-chassis Wranglers, those offroad characteristics will still mean it is a world away from the road-biased Renegade with its fully independent suspension and monocoque construction. I have a Wrangler and a Renegade and they are worlds apart.

 

So test drive a JL carefully in London traffic - consider whether you will want this as your only vehicle when in stop / start London traffic or manoeuvring into tight spaces that need a lot of steering lock. Consider whether the novelty will wear off quickly during your everyday commute before you commit to spending a lot of money.

 

If you have sufficient parking I recommend buying another 4x4 now just to play with. An old Cherokee will do. You can cheaply modify it to be good offroad. You can learn skills on a less capable vehicle (always the best way), a vehicle that you don't mind damaging, and learn for yourself what you want from a 4x4. When your PCP expires with the experience gained you will know 100% what you want. It might be a nice clean JL, or you may have got sick of 4x4 and want a Porsche or you may want to keep a regular car as run-around and start building a very offroad biased Jeep.

 

Good luck with your decisions, and take your time.

 

Steve.

 

 

Hi Steve and thanks for the welcome.

 

thanks also for the kind advice, this is all very helpful indeed. From all the reviews I've watched and read it seems pretty clear that the on-road driving experience would be much different in a Wrangler compared to the Renegade. And I do genuinely love that Renegade as it is so super easy to drive, be it around town, on the motorway or off road. I will go for some of the JoC events, those suitable for a stock Renegade anyway, and will try to get some coaching and practice to see how much further I'd like to take it. When the time comes I will test drive the JL as much as possible, especially in London, to see if it can work as a daily driver. As a late teenager I often drove my folks 90s Mitsubishi Pajero so I do have a feel for what a less luxurious off-roader is like to drive. Can't wait to test how the Wrangler will feel to drive. Getting it on a PCP deal might be just the ticket as I can test it properly for a couple of years and then decide whether to make a final payment and then get into modifying.

 

Plenty to consider and this seems like an excellent place for further advice! Thanks again!

 

Nils

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3 hours ago, Volant165 said:

Hi Fenton,

 

We're meeting with JEEP next week and can check on that. When were you looking at purchasing/ordering? 

I’m looking at my options..  

 

the finance deal deal is up on the JK next year, so I want to have a look at the costs with replacing and moving to the JL. 

 

Let me know what you find out. 

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On 06/11/2018 at 11:04, nilsonwhels said:

Hey guys, I'm Nils and am a Jeep newbie in London (are there many of those?). I only got my licence 2 1/2 years ago (at the ripe age of 35!) and bought my first car a year later, which happened to be a Jeep Renegade (Limited 1.4 Multiair 4WD), which I've now had for 18 months. I never thought I could love a car so much, but I do love the little thing, what a perfect first car. Now, I realise by now that the Jeep purists will scoff at the Renegade, but I will say that it's a great all-rounder and it works perfectly as a marketing strategy to get more people into the Jeep world. I'm now at a stage where I absolutely want a Wrangler after doing a bunch of research and crawling YouTube information videos. Seems to me that the new Wrangler JL would be a perfect transition as it has most of the safety and creature comforts that the Renegade has but with proper off-roading capability. I'm also hoping the 2-door JL won't be too bulky to drive around London, which is definitely one benefit of the Renegade.

Do you guys have any comments on this? Also, would you recommend the diesel or the forthcoming petrol JL?

Last question - while I see out my PCP period on the Renegade and save my pennies for the Wrangler, where would you recommend I can get some beginner off-roading practice in the Renegade not too far from London?

Come along to Slindon in February!

 

Alex.

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A picture to tempt you from a previous Slindon event Nils.....no time like the present to register your interest on the Slindon post.

Horsham Jeep will be in attendance to answer any of your questions about the models, as will numerous members who I am sure will offer to take you out in their Jeeps.....you only have to ask.

 

 

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Thanks guys, will definitely come along to the Slindon event, look forward to getting my Jeep dirty and meeting some of you.

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