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Though I have a winch bumper, I've not bought a winch. My TJ Rubicon had a pretty good Warn winch. Over the 10 years that I had it I probably only used it in anger a couple of times.

That makes it hard to justify.

 

I'm doing Jeep Camp again this year, and at the last couple the people in charge said only modified jeeps with winches could do the black runs. Silly really as if anybody needed help there were 50 racing to play with their toys.

Anyway, I'm sure I'm not the only person that would like to rent a winch.

 

Are there any of our off-road specialists that do that?

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Agree entirely, most winches are pretty hard to justify the cost for how much they'll actually be needed for most people. I have one on mine, doubt I'll ever use it but looks cool.

Don't know if this would work but if it's just to get around the rule then you could buy a 1000lb hand winch and sling it in the back of the jeep so technically you are "Winch equipped" . I carry one sometimes, used it once .......

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sabconsulting

I suspect renting a winch (other than a Tirfor) would be difficult given they need to be wired and bolted in and there is a reasonable risk of someone damaging it / the winch rope.

 

I can understand what they mean about wanting only winch-equipped vehicles on the black runs. I know at the site I help at it is a real pain when someone in a non-winch-equipped vehicle decides to drive down a hole that they aren't equipped to get out of. Loads of time is then wasted trying to find someone willing to winch them out (and possibly damage their own equipment in the process) and other attendees are frustrated that the obstacle is blocked.

 

Do these "black runs" come with the risk of vehicle damage? I.e. other than breaking a half-shaft from trying too hard  :rofl:. I recall the black runs at Aldermaston require you to have a roll cage, and I did nearly roll a 4x4 on one.

 

Steve.

 

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Not being a heavy winch user, I've opted to buying second hand.

 

There are bargains to be had as people upgrade to newer faster models for competing (or just enjoy more challenging routes).

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I'm in a similar boat,ie... Iv got a winch bumper but no winch and struggling to justify hundreds of pounds for something I will use once in a blue moon. Iv spoken to two people who have winch max, for about 400 quid you can get a synthetic rope model with remotes and they stock all the spares should it go wrong. They both said how good they are so I may be adding one to my list.

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I'm in a similar boat,ie... Iv got a winch bumper but no winch and struggling to justify hundreds of pounds for something I will use once in a blue moon. Iv spoken to two people who have winch max, for about 400 quid you can get a synthetic rope model with remotes and they stock all the spares should it go wrong. They both said how good they are so I may be adding one to my list.

 

That's a good price Danny. With rope and remote too! (I paid £200 just for the rope.  :icon_cry:)

Why pay more unless you're giving it heavy use?

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Yes but you got a high quality synthetic bow rope Tim.... many of these synthetics which come with cheap winches are well... cheap if i am honest.

 

 

The way i look at the winch situation is, you should know if you are going to need a winch subliminally. If you dont have a winch you drive to your vehicles ability and you should never get stuck unless you are being silly and aiming to get stuck as such. Therefore unless you need a winch (i.e want to go futher than what you know your car is capable of or close to its limit) do not buy one.

 

If you are buying one (and intend on using it)... buy a decent one and do not go cheap, because you will regret it down the line when you do really need that thing on the front which never thought you would use  :icon_e_biggrin:... and secondly cheap synthetic rope is also a no no in my opinion, if your climbing a hill and relying on that rope... would you rather spend the additional on a good quality synthetic or run the risk of it snapping and you rolling down the hill backwards... i know what i would rather. Also cleaning synthetic ropes (even if not being used) is paramount to them being reliable everytime you use them! We put ours in the washing machine!! Works a treat  :great:

 

 

Just my thoughts anyway :)

 

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Yes but you got a high quality synthetic bow rope Tim.... many of these synthetics which come with cheap winches are well... cheap if i am honest.

 

 

The way i look at the winch situation is, you should know if you are going to need a winch subliminally. If you dont have a winch you drive to your vehicles ability and you should never get stuck unless you are being silly and aiming to get stuck as such. Therefore unless you need a winch (i.e want to go futher than what you know your car is capable of or close to its limit) do not buy one.

 

If you are buying one (and intend on using it)... buy a decent one and do not go cheap, because you will regret it down the line when you do really need that thing on the front which never thought you would use  :icon_e_biggrin:... and secondly cheap synthetic rope is also a no no in my opinion, if your climbing a hill and relying on that rope... would you rather spend the additional on a good quality synthetic or run the risk of it snapping and you rolling down the hill backwards... i know what i would rather. Also cleaning synthetic ropes (even if not being used) is paramount to them being reliable everytime you use them! We put ours in the washing machine!! Works a treat  :great:

 

 

Just my thoughts anyway :)

 

Fair Comment, and wise words as usual Alex  :icon_study:

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Very good points by Alex - I agree completely.

 

I've made the mistake of buying cheap winches before and expecting them to work when I need them. There is a risk that you fit a winch, drive more extreme routes because you have it fitted, and then find it is seized solid when you are now stuck.

 

If I only intended to use a winch once a year I would buy a decent winch, but save money by buying steel rope. My 11mm Dynema was something like £240 and it is not infinitely strong and as Alex says needs care.

 

Yes, steel rope is potentially more dangerous, is nastier to handle and needs care to avoid it being damaged (twisted and crushed on the drum). However, it is cheap to buy and replace, does the job and should get you into the habit of safe winching practice: Checking recovery points are strong enough before winching; Ensuring all parties are standing out of the possible arc of the winch rope in case it fails; properly controlling the recovery operation, those involved and bystanders; using gloves and a winch sail.

 

Steve.

 

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You can always go this way:

 

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Don't have to have is all the time on the vehicle, I have mine in the boot of the Jeep as the one time I really needed it, it was sitting on the floor of my shed.

 

 

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